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Joy and Sorrow

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Joy and Sorrow

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Location

Holm Coast

New units

Ogma, Yuliya, Jubelo, Sirius, Castor, Caeda

Boss(es)

Gail

Previous chapter(s)
Next chapter(s)

Liberation of Grust

Joy and Sorrow (Japanese: 喜びと悲しみと) is the fourth chapter of Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem Book II and Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem.

Plot

Main articles: Joy and Sorrow/Script and Joy and Sorrow/Conversations

To find Ogma, Jubelo, and Yuliya, Marth goes to the Holm Coast, where he finds the trio beset by the Macedonian Vikings. While protecting the children in his care, Ogma can speak with a masked wanderer calling himself Sirius, who offers to cover their escape and joins Ogma in fighting off the bandits. Eventually, Marth's troops reach the mercenary, and Marth recruits Castor from the northern village by giving him gold when he asks for it.

The army defeats the bandit leader, Gail, and captures his fortress. However, Caeda arrives to inform Marth that the Empire has taken over Altea and Emperor Hardin has branded Marth and his army as traitors to Archanea. Elice has been taken hostage to allow Caeda to escape, and she does not know the fates of the others. Marth vows to reclaim Altea, even if it means fighting the Emperor himself.

Chapter data

Chapter data

Mystery of the Emblem New Mystery of the Emblem

Normal Hard Maniac/Lunatic

Chapter Data
Conditions
Unit Data
Victory: Seize Player Partner Other Enemy Third
Defeat: Marth or Kris dies 10+5 {{{partner}}} {{{other}}} 18+4-1 {{{third}}}
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Map dimensions:
30 columns by 30 rows

Character data

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Characters
New Units
Ogma
Portrait ogma fe12.png
Mercenary
HP
27
Inventory
Steel Sword
Vulnerary
Level
7
Automatically from turn 1
Yuliya
Portrait yuliya fe12.png
Cleric
HP
16
Inventory
Heal
Rescue
Level
2
Automatically from turn 1
Jubelo
Portrait jubelo fe12.png
Mage
HP
18
Inventory
Fire
Level
1
Automatically from turn 1
Sirius
Portrait sirius fe12.png
Paladin
HP
28
Inventory
Steel Lance
Iron Sword
Level
1
Enemy, talk to with Ogma
Castor
Portrait castor fe12.png
Hunter
HP
24
Inventory
Killer Bow
Level
7
Visit northern village
Caeda
Portrait caeda fe12.png
Pegasus Knight
HP
19
Inventory
Wing Spear
Javelin
Level
4
Automatically at the end
Returning Characters

Default male player's unit ​Ryan ​Luke ​Roderick ​Gordin ​Cecil ​Draug ​Marth ​Arran ​Marisha ​Catria ​Warren ​Cord ​Linde ​Palla ​Bord ​Julian ​Matthis ​Wrys ​

Ogma and Caeda retain any stat gains they acquired in the prologue.

Item data

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Items
Name Obtainment Method
Is ds cutting gale.png Cutting Gale Visit the southern village
Is ds steel bow.png Steel Bow Dropped by a Hunter
Is ds vulnerary.png Vulnerary Dropped by a Hunter
Is ds devil sword.png Devil Sword Dropped by a Thief
Is ds armorslayer.png Armorslayer Dropped by a Thief
Is ds bullion.png Bullion Dropped by Gail

Enemy data

Enemy data

Mystery of the Emblem New Mystery of the Emblem

Stats with a decimal can vary randomly; the decimal represents the chance for the stat to increase to the nearest integer, or otherwise be truncated.

Normal Hard Maniac Lunatic

Enemy Units
Name Class Lv # HP Str Mag Skill Spd Lck Prf Def Res Cha Con Mov Inventory and Skills
Ma ds02 pirate enemy.gif Ruffian Pirate 5 1 21.6 9 0 6 4.6 0 5 0.2 6 Steel Axe
--
Ma ds02 pirate enemy.gif Ruffian Pirate 3 5 19.8 8 0 5.5 4.3 0 4 0.1 6 Iron Axe
--
Ma ds02 hunter enemy.gif Ruffian Hunter 5 1 20.4 6.4 0 5.2 7.2 0 2.4 0.2 6 Steel BowThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat.
--
Ma ds02 hunter enemy.gif Ruffian Hunter 3 2 19.2 6.2 0 4.6 6.6 0 2.2 0.1 6 Iron Bow
--
Ma ds02 paladin enemy.gif Sirius Paladin 1 1 28 12 1 14 13 4 11 6 10 Steel Lance Iron Sword
Does not move or initiate combat.
Ma ds02 barbarian enemy.gif Ruffian Barbarian 3 3 19.8 8 0 5.5 4.3 0 4 0.1 6 Iron Axe
Immediately begins moving unprovoked.
Ma ds02 hunter enemy.gif Ruffian Hunter 3 1 19.2 6.2 0 4.6 6.6 0 2.2 0.1 6 Iron Bow VulneraryThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat.
Immediately begins moving unprovoked.
Ma ds02 thief enemy.gif Ruffian Thief 3 1 17.2 5.4 0 2.8 8 0 2.6 0 7 Devil SwordThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat.
Prioritizes raiding villages.
Ma ds02 thief enemy.gif Ruffian Thief 3 1 17.2 5.4 0 2.8 8 0 2.6 0 7 Iron Sword
Prioritizes raiding villages.
Ma ds02 thief enemy.gif Ruffian Thief 3 1 17.2 5.4 0 2.8 8 0 2.6 0 7 ArmorslayerThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat.
Prioritizes raiding villages.
Ma ds02 pirate enemy.gif Gail Pirate 10 1 30 9 0 8 6 0 7 0 -- Silver Axe Hand Axe BullionThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat.
Stands on a gate, the chapter's seize point.
Reinforcements
Name Class Lv # HP Str Mag Skill Spd Lck Def Res Cha Con Mov Inventory and Skills
Ma ds02 barbarian enemy.gif Ruffian Barbarian 5 2 21.6 9 0 6 4.6 0 5 0.2 6 Iron Axe
--
Ma ds02 hunter enemy.gif Ruffian Hunter 5 1 20.4 6.4 0 5.2 7.2 0 2.4 0.2 6 Steel Bow
--
Ma ds02 pirate enemy.gif Ruffian Pirate 5 1 21.6 9 0 6 4.6 0 5 0.2 6 Iron Axe
--

Reinforcements

Mystery of the Emblem
  • Starting turn 4, continuing until 11 of each have appeared; which appear each turn is random
    • One Hunter from the uppermost of the west forts
    • Three Pirates; two from the lower of the west forts, one from the east fort
New Mystery of the Emblem
  • Turns 2 (Lunatic), 3 (Maniac and Lunatic), 4 (Lunatic), 5 (Maniac), 6 (Normal and Hard), and 7 (Maniac)
    • One Hunter from the uppermost of the west forts
    • Two Barbarians from the lowest of the west forts
  • Turns 3 (Lunatic), 4 (Lunatic), 5 (Maniac), 6 (Normal and Hard), and 7 (Maniac)

Boss data

Main article: Gail
Boss data

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Stats with a decimal can vary randomly; the decimal represents the chance for the stat to increase to the nearest integer, or otherwise be truncated.

Normal Hard Maniac Lunatic

Small portrait gail fe12.png
Ma ds02 pirate enemy.gif Pirate
Level 10
Movement --
Stats
Max HP 30 Speed 6
Strength 9 Luck 0
Magic 0 Defense 7
Skill 8 Resistance 0
Inventory
Silver Axe
Hand Axe
BullionThis item is dropped upon this unit's defeat.
Weapon Levels
Swords -- Lances -- Axes B
Bows -- Tomes -- Staves --

Strategy

This section details unofficial strategies that may help with completion of the chapter. This may not work for everybody.

This section has been marked as a stub. Please help improve the page by adding information.


In New Mystery of the Emblem, you get your hands on your first Rescue staff in this chapter. Make sure not to blow through all of your charges too early, as you'll need one charge to complete Chapter 6x in an efficient manner.

Etymology and other languages

Names, etymology and in other regions
Language Name Definition, etymology and notes
English
(unofficial)

Joy and Sorrow

Used in the Mystery of the Emblem fan translation.[which?]

Japanese

喜びと悲しみと

Joy and Sorrow

Gallery

References

← Abducted Princess •
← Shadows Behind the Scenes (New Mystery only) •
Joy and Sorrow • Liberation of Grust →
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem
Playable characters Book 1 AbelArranAstramBantuBarstBoahBordCaedaCaesarCainCastorCatriaCordDolphDraugEliceEstGordinHardinJagenJeorgeJulianLenaLindeLorenzMacellanMariaMarthMatthisMerricMidiaMinervaNavarreOgmaPallaRaddRickardRosheaSamsonSedgarTikiTomasVylandWendellWolfXane
Book 2 AbelArlenArranAstramBantuCaedaCainCastorCatriaCecilDraugEliceEstPhinaGordinJeorgeJubeloJulianLenaLindeLukeMariaMarishaMarthMatthisMerricMidiaMinervaNavarreNynaOgmaPallaRickardRoderickRosheaRyanSamsonSamuelSheenaSiriusTikiVylandWarrenWendellXaneYuliya
Non-playable characters Book 1 AnriCorneliusGotohIoteLizaMalledusNynaMostyn
Book 2 Aurelis KingBoahCamusGotohJagenLangLorenzMichalis
Bosses Book 1 CamusEmereusGazzakGharnefGomerHarmeinHollstadtHymanJiolKannivalKhozenMedeusMerachMichalisMorzasTikiVolzhinXemcelZharov
Book 2 DallEibelEllereanFire DragonGailGharnefHardinHereticIce DragonJeorgeLangLorenzLumelLykkeMage DragonMedeusNehringSheenaTorusWillowWyvernYodel
Regalia and personal weapons AumAuraExcaliburFalchionFire EmblemGradivusImhulluMercuriusParthiaRapierStarlight
Chapters Book 1 1: Marth Embarks • 2: The Pirates of Galder • 3: A Brush in the Teeth • 4: Champions of Aurelis • 5: Fire Emblem • 6: Lefcandith Gauntlet • 7: Port Warren • 8: Princess Minerva • 9: Knorda Market • 10: The Ageless Palace • 11: Land of Sorrow • 12: An Oasis of Magic • 13: The Battle for Altea • 14: Star and Savior • 15: Manakete Princess • 16: Camus the Sable • 17: A Knight-Filled Sky • 18: Dark Pontifex • 19: The Dragonkin Realm • 20: Chosen by Fate
Book 2 1: The Grustian Expedition • 2: Rebellion at Macedon • 3: Abducted Princess • 4: Joy and Sorrow • 5: Liberation of Grust • 6: The Nest of Evil • 7: The Scarlet Sword • 8: Soulful Bridge • 9: Sanctuary of Sorcery • 10: Two Sorcerers • 11: Anri's Way • 12: Graveyard of Fire Dragons • 13: Frozen Land • 14: A Mystery Revealed • 15: Return of the Prince • 16: Regaining the Capital • 17: Gra's Sun Sets • 18: Battle of the Pass • 19: The Last Decisive Battle • 20: Dark Emperor • E1: The Wyvern's Dale • E2: The Dragon's Table (part 1part 2part 3)
Locations ArchaneaAlteaAnri's WayAurelisDolhr (Dragon's Table) • Empire of ArchaneaGraGrustKhadeinMacedonTalys
Groups, objects and concepts Archanean LeagueDragons (Divine DragonEarth DragonManakete) • DragoonsHereticsSable OrderWar of HeroesWar of LiberationWar of ShadowsWhitewinged Order
Related topics Anime AdaptationName chart • Other games (Shadow Dragon & the Blade of LightGaidenGenealogy of the Holy WarArchanea SagaNew Mystery of the EmblemAwakening) • Pre-release information (Unused content) • Sound MuseumTimeline
Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem: Heroes of Light and Shadow
Playable characters AbelArlenArranAstramAthenaBantuBarstBeckBelfBordCaedaCaesarCainCastorCatriaCecilCordDarrosDiceDolphDraugEliceEstEtzelFreyFrostGordinHoraceJakeJeorgeJubeloJulianKatarinaKrisLenaLindeLukeMacellanMaliceMariaMarishaMarthMatthisMerricMichalisMidiaMinervaNagiNavarreNorneNynaOgmaPallaPhinaRaddReidenRickardRobertoRoderickRogerRosheaRyanSamsonSamuelSedgarSheenaSiriusTikiTomasVylandWarrenWendellWolfWrysXaneYmirYuliya
Non-playable characters Aurelis KingBoahCamusGotohJagenLangLorenz
Bosses ArlenAthenaCaedaCainClarisseDallDark BishopDraugEibelEremiyaEstFire DragonGailGharnefHardinIce DragonJagenJeorgeKatarinaLangLegionLorenzLumelLukeLykkeMage DragonMedeusNehringOgmaRoderickRuffianSheenaTorusWillowWyvernYodel
Regalia and personal weapons AumFalchionGradivusHauteclereImhulluMercuriusParthiaRapierStarlightWing Spear
Chapters Main story P1: Meeting • P2: Young Squires • P3: Training Begins • P4: New Companions (Jeorge, Athena) • P5: March Duty • P6: Bonds (Ogma, Draug) • P7: The Final Test (Est, Cain) • P8: Assassination of the Hero-King • 1: The Grustian Expedition • 2: Rebellion at Macedon • 3: Abducted Princess • 3x: Shadows Behind the Scenes • 4: Joy and Sorrow • 5: Liberation of Grust • 6: The Nest of Evil • 6x: Mercenary Squad • 7: The Scarlet Sword • 8: Soulful Bridge • 9: Sanctuary of Sorcery • 10: Two Sorcerers • 10x: The Mask Laughs • 11: Anri's Way • 12: Graveyard of Fire Dragons • 13: Frozen Land • 13x: Within the White Darkness • 14: A Mystery Revealed • 15: Return of the Prince • 16: Regaining the Capital • 16x: Reunion • 17: Gra's Sun Sets • 18: Battle of the Pass • 19: The Last Decisive Battle • 20: Dark Emperor • 20x: Bottom of the Deep Abyss • 21: The Wyvern's Dale • 22: The Dragon's Table • 23: The Dark Pontifex Lives • Endgame: Light and Shadow
New Archanea Saga 1: The Capital Falls • 2: Red Dragoon • 3: Righteous Thieves • 4: The Beginning
DLC bonus chapters 1: Wind and Thunder • 2: Three Assassins • 3: That Which Was Done by the Sword Shall Be Undone by the Sword
Locations ArchaneaAlteaAnri's WayAurelisDolhr (Dragon's Table) • Empire of ArchaneaGraGrustKhadeinMacedonTalys
Groups, objects and concepts Dragon (Divine DragonEarth DragonManakete) • HereticsSable OrderFire Emblem/Binding ShieldWar of HeroesWar of LiberationWar of ShadowsWhitewinged Order
Related topics Name chart • Other games (Shadow Dragon & the Blade of LightGaidenMystery of the EmblemArchanea SagaShadow DragonAwakening) • Pre-release information (Unused content) • Sound RoomTimeline