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==Capitals==
== Archive ==
Do we need so many capitals? Like Killing Edge, Weapon Triangle.. Article titles don't have to be capitalized like book titles, so we can have titles such as "Killing edge" or "Weapon triangle", as they're referred to in games after Rekka no Ken (the first worldwide game). They switched from listing "Iron Lance" to "Iron lance", and same with other weapons, although I think the weapon triangle was always lowercase. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 05:06, 10 September 2010 (MDT)


: If that's how they are called in RECENT games, then go ahead. :3 I have a habit of capitalizing them though. [[User:Yusei|Yusei]] 08:59, 10 September 2010 (MDT)
[[Talk:Main Page/Archive1]]
: : Okay, thanks for the clarification. :D[[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 14:48, 10 September 2010 (MDT)


==Character page default layout==
== FEW Main Site?? ==
What's the default layout for the character pages? This appears to be the current setup:
* (Games the character has appeared in)
** Starting stats and growth rates
* Personality and character
** Support conversations
* Other appearances
* Etymology
* Trivia
* Gallery


So do support conversations warrant a section of their own? Also, are we making pages for support conversations? And is there anything we're missing? I feel like we might be missing something. Maybe appearance? [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 05:15, 16 September 2010 (MDT)
Not so sure if you guys would like the idea, but since I did run the place in the past, I was thinking we could have a main page dedicated mostly to just strategy and guides for the games... As in walk throughs and stuff. Information on characters and things like abilities will remain on the wiki. Maybe even eventually having forums and the like? I'm not sure. but that's up to you guys.


:: That's just a basic layout I had made for right now. Supports get their own section too. Sorry for the confusion. You can pretty much fill out whatever you want. [[User:Yusei|Yusei]] 08:59, 16 September 2010 (MDT)
Just a thought... [[User:Eliwood|'''''<span style="font-size:18px; color:#FF6600; font-family:Times New Roman">-- Eliwood</span>''''']]&nbsp; ([[User_talk:Eliwood|<span style="font-size:11px; font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:#2ea417;">My Talk Page</span>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Eliwood|<span style="font-size:11px; font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:#00F7FF;">My Contributions</span>]])  17:21, 3 January 2012 (EST)
:::Here's my draft, based on Eirika, Marth, and Joshua combined:
:Would the site be serving the same purpose as Strategy Wiki? [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] 17:28, 3 January 2012 (EST).
* Heading (brief explanation)
::Also... we don't have a lot of that at all so far. Most of our content is the wiki stuff. I don't think making a blank main page would serve us very well currently. Maybe if we built up strategies/walkthroughs for all the games, then put them on the main page somewhere, I guess... My point is that we're in no position to do that right now. [[User:BrandedOne|BrandedOne]] 18:07, 3 January 2012 (EST)
* (Games the character has appeared in)
:::Leave that to StrategyWiki. We do not want to steal their people! Anyways, besides that, the main page is currently how a normal wiki main page is, so changing it would make it weirder and make us isolated from the norm of a wiki. '''''[[User:SuperAlpaca|<font color="OliveDrab">Super</font>]]''''' <sup><small><small>''[[User Talk:SuperAlpaca|<font color="#644b80">(duh...)</font>]]''</small></small></sup>'''''[[Special:Editcount/SuperAlpaca|<font color="SteelBlue">Alpaca</font>]]'''''[[File:Doggie Mask.png|link=Special:Contributions/SuperAlpaca]] 00:41, 4 January 2012 (EST)
** Role (Role in the story. Personality & character --> Personality and character section.)
::::If our interesting is doing strategies, then I am sure they would appreciate all the help that we can give them. It helps them, expand [[strategywiki:Category:Fire_Emblem|there current info]], and it helps you guys spread the word of Fire Emblem. :D. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] 17:26, 5 January 2012 (EST).
**Starting stats and growth rates (Not "Stat Growths"; they're usually referred to just as growth rates.)
:::: "Would the site be serving the same purpose as Strategy Wiki? Tacopill 17:28, 3 January 2012 (EST)." Well I'm not sure. What's the point of having a site at all if we have SW everywhere and stuff? The sake of the reason I have Zelda Sanctuary right now is for the fact I want to have more and better information than the other Zelda sites. What's the point in having a Zelda site if there is ZD? So I was thinking we could do a friendly competition between sites to produce better information than the last... Eventually it helps everyone. I mean you guys are already doing that VS. our wikia counterpart. [[User:Eliwood|'''''<span style="font-size:18px; color:#FF6600; font-family:Times New Roman">-- Eliwood</span>''''']]&nbsp; ([[User_talk:Eliwood|<span style="font-size:11px; font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:#2ea417;">My Talk Page</span>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Eliwood|<span style="font-size:11px; font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:#00F7FF;">My Contributions</span>]]) 22:25, 5 January 2012 (EST)
** Promotion stat gains
:::::We need to focus on getting content we actually need before we focus on expansion into unnecessary features, such as walkthroughs. We already have ones per chapter on each chapter page, anyways. '''''[[User:SuperAlpaca|<font color="OliveDrab">Super</font>]]''''' <sup><small><small>''[[User Talk:SuperAlpaca|<font color="#644b80">(duh...)</font>]]''</small></small></sup>'''''[[Special:Editcount/SuperAlpaca|<font color="SteelBlue">Alpaca</font>]]'''''[[File:Doggie Mask.png|link=Special:Contributions/SuperAlpaca]] 23:26, 5 January 2012 (EST)
*** (Promotion classes) (stat gains listed here!)
(Growth rates go in "Starting stats and growth rates"!)
* Personality and character (Describe character's personality and the character xemself (history, heritage, family, etc)
* Support conversations
** Support increase rates
** Support stat bonuses? (How can we get these?)
* Endings (All endings!)
* Other appearances (Stickers count!)
* Etymology (of name.)
* Trivia (Not too much.)
* Gallery


What do you think? Is it a bit long? I'm not entirely sure about some of the section titles, like support increase rates. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 20:04, 18 September 2010 (MDT)
::::::Amy, it is simply not an idea I don think is feasible, necessary, or even actually beneficial, to us or to readers.  


== Community Page ==
::::::First of all, as many have mentioned, we really are not ready to take on that. We need to focus on filling up the necessary wiki information rather than thinking about new projects already. So it's not really feasible. It's true that we could set it up without too much difficulty, but trying to maintain it would result in three things: neglecting the wiki, which is horrible, equally neglecting both, which would cause us to lose a lot of time for actually posting information on BOTH sites, or neglecting that site, in whose case it would become useless (which I think it would be regardless; continue reading). The problem is that we don't have the userbase to support a website. That's why the forums were so inactive - everybody active enough to post there was active enough to be in the Skype chat anyway. We don't have enough people to help out even with just the wiki. And even if we got enough, I still don't think it would be a good idea. Continue on...


I was thinking of making community pages like Zelda Wiki. I was thinking for like a similar page to http://www.zeldawiki.org/Zelda_Wiki.org:Castle_Town and call it [[Ostia]] Square, after the largest territory in the [[Lycian League]]. [[User:Yusei|Yusei]] 10:37, 18 September 2010 (MDT)
::::::Next, I really don't understand your idea of how friendly competition is really a good or needed thing. While, yes, it might be a bit enjoyable to do it, I just don't understand why there is a need to compete anyway. If it's for more pageviews, it won't work because most viewers are just going to go to Serenes Forest (and its forums) and GameFAQs for Fire Emblem walkthroughs, because they are the reputed sites that have existed and been amazing for years. We don't need to have better information because they already have great information. And we already include strategy tips on our own pages anyway. As others have said, look at StrategyWiki! I do believe it would be a bit discourteous to try doing this, and also very, very futile in general. It's just not necessary to do this, and even if you did try this, I wouldn't work on it because I'd focus on the wiki. And I'm sure many other editors would as well.
:This sounds reasonable. I'm doing the same thing [http://starfoxwiki.org/LW:Corneria here], except, it's become more of a personal blog..... [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] 14:05, 18 September 2010 (MDT).
::Sounds like a nice idea! Ostia Square is a nice name. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 20:03, 18 September 2010 (MDT)


==Endings==
::::::Competition with Fire Emblem Wikia is different. We are trying to be a high-quality ''independent'' wiki, an information base that is not farmed for dollars by a corporation. And that's a huge part of it - it's a moral motive, to provide information that is not used for commercial purposes, as well as one on which the users make democratic decisions themselves, rather than an administration forcing changes onto users as Wikia has done. You cannot use Fire Emblem Wiki's competition with Fire Emblem Wikia as an example of "friendly competition" when we have a moral reason to compete against a competitor rather than just merely trying to be better.
Where can we get these besides the wikia FE wiki? [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 19:10, 18 September 2010 (MDT)


: http://serenesforest.net/ has a lot of info and so does http://www.feplanet.net . [[User:Yusei|Yusei]] 19:12, 18 September 2010 (MDT)
::::::Lastly - will it help us? As I've said, it won't help us. We won't get any substantial amount of increased pageviews or anything because other strategy websites have existed already. Strategy Wiki exists! And I think it would be just a little bit discourteous to try to take their territory, as a fellow NIWA wiki. And, drawing from the "neglection" stuff I was saying earlier - it'll hurt us if we try to work on it. And considering the server load Tacopill deals with, it'll maybe even slow down the wiki. As for helping readers, I don't think any of us here actually have played Fire Emblem levels enough times to give strategy tips on them. So we don't have anyone qualified, or enough people in the first place, and we're starting from scratch - we won't end up actually helping people for a looong time if we attempt this. And most people aren't going to read us anyway.


== Too Many Stubs ==
::::::So, in the end, I really don't think trying to make a strategy site will help us. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 00:52, 6 January 2012 (EST)


There are way too many pages with little or no information. I think, before we make any more pages, we should work on filling up the ones we already have. I'm going to go ahead and start with that, but I'm going to need help. [[User:Legend|Legend]] 09:55, 23 September 2010 (MDT)
:::::::I am not in favour of this idea. We are enough busy as it is with the wiki; it would be near impossible to work on something else. ~ [[User:Aria der Donau|Aria der Donau]] 08:09, 9 January 2012 (EST)


: Go ahead. That's why I made that list of them for now. So we know what classes are what, and what we need to add onto. [[User:Yusei|'''''<span style="font-size:16px; font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><span style="color:#5ad2fe;">- </span><span style="color:#2dace1;">Y</span><span style="color:#1995c9;">u</span><span style="color:#1974c9;">s</span><span style="color:#0b43a0;">e</span><span style="color:#021661;">i</span>''''']]&nbsp;</span> ([[User_talk:Yusei|<span style="font-size:11px; font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:#2ea417;">My Talk Page</span>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Yusei|<span style="font-size:11px; font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:#ff9900;">My Contributions</span>]])  12:12, 23 September 2010 (MDT)
== Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem ==
:: To see the shortest through alphabetical order, you can also see [[Special:ShortPages|this]]. It shows which ones are shortest by byte count. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]] 14:56, 23 September 2010 (MDT)
:::I'd recommend deleting all the class stubs. I can't think of what reason they serve. If you want to have a list of classes, it might be a better idea to do a list page. [[User:Aveyn Knight|Aveyn Knight]] 08:28, 5 October 2010 (MDT)


==Stat templates==
I just joined, and noticed that there does not seem to be any news concerning Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem. I was wondering if it was because no one noticed or it's not related somehow. The reveal/teaser is [//www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo here]. [[User:Parzival|Parzival]] ([[User talk:Parzival|talk]]) 02:38, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
I've found out that there are a lot of varying stat values for different games that'll require different stat templates - some only have str or mag, some have both str and mag, some have affinities, some do/don't have con and aid, etc. It's rather confusing and so here's my proposal -


* A template for FE6-8 (the current standard template) with Str only
:My guess is a) no-one, or at least no-one with access to edit the main page, noticed, or b) something to do with how nothing has been mentioned of it since it was revealed. If anything is announced at E3, someone will hopefully get around to adding it. --[[User:Moydow|<span style="color: green;">Moy</span><span style="color: orange;">dow</span>]] ([[User talk:Moydow|Support]]) 21:48, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
* A template for FE6-8 with Mag only
* A template for FE9-10 with Str and Mag - both!
* A template for FE11 with Str and Mag but no affinity, con, or aid.


I'm pretty sure that's how they'd work.. and I'm not sure about FE1-5 though. Help! [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 19:16, 28 September 2010 (MDT)
::Hello. I would just like to add on that the crossover now has an official name, "Genei Ibun Roku" and the release date, as far as I know, is December of this year. --gokuplayer
::We still don't have an English name for the game, I'm pretty sure that's why the page is still at [[Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem]]. [[User:L95|L95]] ([[User talk:L95|talk]]) 17:45, 25 July 2015 (UTC)


== Naming Conventions ==
== TearRing/Berwick Saga? ==


Before I do anything, I'd like some confirmation as to one facet of this wiki's conventions: on the matter of official English names for characters, where conflicts exist between versions, which are accepted - Nintendo of America's names (Caeda, Navarre, Archanea, Sentinel, Dheginsea, Kyza, Order Incarnate, etc.) or Nintendo of Europe's names (Shiida, Nabarl, Akaneia, Lancer, Deghinsea, Kysha, Goddess of Order, etc.)?  Similarly, where official NoA/NoE names are unavailable like in Japan-only games, what's our source for Romanised names? If no precedent exists yet, I'd advise use of the NoA names in that arguably they're better known and thus more likely to be searched, and I've got a vague working-out as to what to do in the case of a lack of an official English name if anyone's interested, but that's just me.  Anyway, thanks in advance. -<b><font face="Calibri" size="2">[[User:Dlakii|Dlakii]] <sup>([[User talk:Dlakii|Talk!]])</sup></font></b> 00:59, 1 October 2010 (MDT)
Are you guys able to add pages related to the TearRing Saga or Berwick Saga? I have plenty of pictures about them if that'll help, but the information from said games will have to come from somewhere else. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 18:26, 11 November 2014 (UTC)


I'm not exactly sure... although personally I prefer the Nintendo of America names, that doesn't really affect what the wiki should use. But I do agree with the fact that a lot of the NOA names are more used (except Archanea). I'm not sure about lack of English names, but aren't there names programmed in the code or something like that? [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 17:46, 1 October 2010 (MDT)
:Sorry, TearRing Saga and Berwick Saga are not part of our coverage. Try looking for (or creating) a dedicated wiki concerning that franchise. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] ([[User talk:Shiningpikablu252|talk]]) 23:24, 11 November 2014 (UTC)


:Being new to this wiki, I don't mean to be prying, but... in the case of games released only in Japan, we could follow the romanization given by this [http://www.nintendo.co.jp/fe/fe_museum/index.html official page]. --[[User:Aria der Donau|Aria der Donau]] 17:49, 3 October 2010 (MDT)
:: Well, a lot of other FE sites do cover those games, owing to their extreme similarity to FE, and being made by the same director ([[Shouzou Kaga]]) as the early FEs. I don't think we should just rule them out like that. --[[User:Moydow|<span style="color: green;">Moy</span><span style="color: orange;">dow</span>]] ([[User talk:Moydow|Support]]) 23:59, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
:::The other FE Wiki has pages covering TRS. [[User:L95|L95]] ([[User talk:L95|talk]]) 18:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


::Sounds like a good idea. These are the official names, it appears. A lot of names were changed in English localizations (Coma -> Colm, Xyst (?!) -> Gerik, etc.), but since these haven't been changed to English we can stay with these names.
== Mistakes page ==
[[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 19:40, 3 October 2010 (MDT)


== Classes ==
Hey there. Just an idea: shouldn't we create a page with a list of mistakes in the series? I'm playing through ''Awakening'' at the moment, and I noticed a typo on the first support conversation between Nowi and Gregor: something akin to "an woolly jacket". I'm playing on the European version of the game. I've searched around the web a tad and found other mistakes that would be interesting to compile in a page. [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 08:43, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
:I've generally liked those kinds of pages, it would be pretty useful to also list things like translation errors. Off the top of my head, the [[Aenir]] issue in {{FE7}} and {{FE13}}'s DLC had a quite a few translation issues. (Mostly issues with maintaining localization changes that occurred in the main game but were missed/forgotten? in the dlc. The dlc uses Japanese names of classes and items in a handful of places.) '''However''', I feel like listing things like typos-by this I mean minor ones that don't lead to confusion-are't really worth of creating a page over. [[User:L95|L95]] ([[User talk:L95|talk]]) 15:44, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
::I get what you mean. It's a bit interesting to have for the sake of completion, and for entertainment of the reader. Of course, a wiki isn't a fun house, but if a page can entertain the readers ''and'' fall within the scope and policy of a wiki, it sounds like a good candidate on my book. A list of typos would be objective, after all. Your call, anyway. I'll keep my eyes peeled and report any other typo I find just in case a page is ever decided to be created. [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 07:56, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


So, tell me about classes? Any information you have for me would be helpful, but if you need specifics, how about these:
Welp, found another one. At the end of [[The Seacomers|chapter 12]], Basilio says "The town is '''in a shambles''', as is my army." That should be either "in shambles" or "in a shamble", in my opinion. This won't mean anything for the creation of the page, sure, but I did say I'd keep an eye out for further typos! [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 16:45, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
* What games do the classes appear in?
* What classes can apply to which characters? (AND VISA-VERSA)
* What stats are affected by the classes?
* What weapons are able to be used by what classes?
[[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] 09:07, 5 October 2010 (MDT).
:The units (or characters) you receive or obtain in each game are classified in different classes, so each game has a wide variety. The classes determine what kind of weapon -among other things- the characters can use; for example, archers only use bows, while cavaliers use swords and lances. However, some classes only appear in some games (summoners are exclusive to Sacred Stones, the last GBA game) and weapons can change from game to game (paladins, or promoted cavaliers, can use lances and swords in Shadow Dragon, and these two weapons plus axes in GBA games.)
:Gender determines some stats and a few classes. Example: pegasus knights are a female-exclusive class, while male physical units have a bigger strength cap.
:Perhaps it would be better for you to start with one game at the time - otherwise, it can be very confusing. --[[User:Aria der Donau|Aria der Donau]] 16:29, 5 October 2010 (MDT)
::Ok, i got "on me": [[Sealed Sword]], [[Fire Emblem]] (U) and [[Sacred Stones]] (all GBA). Which one would be the easiest to dive into? [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] 17:23, 5 October 2010 (MDT).
:::Blazing Sword, by all means (the second option). It has a tutorial that explains the basics of FE. Besides, it doesn't have the branched promotion system of Sacred Stones and it's easier than Sword of Seals.


I have memorized the classes promotional chain for [[Sacred Stones]] as well as weapon use and I think I can do the same for it's predecessor [[Sealed Sword]]. Give me the weekend and i SHOULD be able to put the information in on the classes I know by heart... However I think it would be a good idea to create a template for exactly how you want the information organized so that we don't have a big job later when we realize that all the class pages have slightly different formats. The hardest part is what stats are affected. The extrapolation of the proper growth rate equation has yet to surface (there are small holes in the current theory) and how the stats are affected are NOT only dependent on the caps set by the game. [[User:Strategex|Strategex]] 18:53, 5 October 2010 (MDT)
Another: the description for [[Relief]] ends with a comma instead of a period. [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 08:03, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
:I have a sketch of a class page in my [[User:Aria_der_Donau/Sandbox|sandbox]], but it's far from complete. Feel free to make any suggestion or modification (I have a backup file in my laptop). And on another note, perhaps we should take the class system explanation somewhere else, don't you think? Just to avoid taking too much space in this talk page (but I'm waiting to hear about those holes in the theory...) --[[User:Aria der Donau|Aria der Donau]] 20:12, 5 October 2010 (MDT)


Where do you want to move it? Post and I'm there. The holes in the theory aren't something I know super well but last I checked [[user:Aveyn Knight|Aveyn Knight]], author of www.serenesforest.net, was working on that. It has something to do with growth rates values equaling 0 yet still growing, not often, but still... It's interesting. [[User:Strategex|Strategex]] 20:56, 5 October 2010 (MDT)
Found another; this time for ''Fates''. Instead of bloating the talk page for the main page every time I find something, I'll just slap it on my [[User:Espyo|user page]] and warn readers from the future to check out the list there. [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 15:44, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
:[[Blazing Sword]] is the easiest to get into?! thank you! i now no which game i should play. You see, i have never actually played an FE game. I am here to help Yusei (and anyone else who asks) with Wiki stuff. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] 23:12, 5 October 2010 (MDT).
::I've never heard of any holes or uncertainties in the growth rate equation. The growth rates you see are for all intents and purposes equal to an exact percentage chance. So a growth rate of 50(%) yields a 50% chance to increase a stat. All the info that you need on growth rates can be found [http://serenesforest.net/general/growth.html here]. The only occassion when the growth rate equation becomes sligthly complicated is in {{FESD}} and to an extent in the very first three games, due to the [[RNG]] used. Perhaps you're confused by [http://serenesforest.net/general/truehit.html True Hit] or [http://fea.fewiki.net/ average stats]? [[User:Aveyn Knight|Aveyn Knight]] 09:18, 6 October 2010 (MDT)


Thanks for the clear up. Sorry for the misinfo! Either way tacopill, the easiest game to play is [[Sacred Stones]] and is fairly easy to find at game stop but [[Blazing Sword]] is the easiest to understand the systems the games use and the basic premise of the games are throughout [[Blazing Sword]] and easy to spot. The hard part about it is it's more difficult to find. (Isn't this a template discussion?) [[User:Strategex|Strategex]] 09:40, 6 October 2010 (MDT)
== Warriors ==
:May it is *thinks*. Anyway. Thank you for the suggestions. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] 15:47, 6 October 2010 (MDT)


==Title templates==
That fact that information about Warriors and the new characters needs to be added to the news section, please help as soon as possible.
Does anyone have a full list of all the title templates, like "~~FEPR~~", with the ~'s replaced with { and }, gives "{{FEPR}}"? [[User:Aveyn Knight|Aveyn Knight]] 10:16, 6 October 2010 (MDT)
~Kiril
:they are currently all listed under [[:Category:Formatting_Templates]]. [[User:Tacopill|Tacopill]] 15:46, 6 October 2010 (MDT).


== Chapters ==
l love fire emblem
 
How will we specify the Chapters and their overviews on the wiki? Are we going to specify by region or game or both? By location?
-for example....
*Chapter 1 Escape! (Sacred Stones/ Magvel)
*Chapter 1 Escape! (Sacred Stones)
*Chapter 1 Escape! (Magvel)
[[User:Strategex|Strategex]] 17:16, 6 October 2010 (MDT)
 
: I'm thinking just "Escape!" would be fine. If there's another game with that, it would be "Escape! (Sacred Stones)". I'd like to use the game. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 20:11, 6 October 2010 (MDT)
::Ok so my next concern is what is in those pages? Are there templates? Can we make some? Also I think we should use the Chapter number so that people don't have to remember the title of the chapter to find the info they're looking for. I think it would be better for the users if we identified the chapters with numbers. [[User:Strategex|Strategex]] 22:41, 6 October 2010 (MDT)
:::Sorry for the extremely late response...ehehehe...
 
So I think using the chapter number would probably be a good idea. I think somebody made a chapter template...was it me? ...yes, it was! Template:Chapter. Although I think you probably know that. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 19:10, 26 October 2010 (MDT)
 
==Max stats==
Some games, if not all, only have different sets of max stats for promoted classes, and non-promoted classes all have the same caps. On class pages, should we
* a) list the non-promoted class caps, which may or may not be all the same (like in FE8)
* b) list the promoted class caps, like [[Wight]] caps on the [[Bonewalker]] page
* c) list both non-promoted caps and promoted caps on the same page, but not on the promoted class page
?
[[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 19:10, 26 October 2010 (MDT)
:I vote for a). It may serve to see how much classes have changed since they were introduced to the series. ~ [[User:Aria der Donau|Aria der Donau]] 18:38, 1 November 2010 (MDT)
::Agreed. "A" provides a base of information you can apply to every game in the series. A comparison of caps just seems very useful in several theoretical in game cases and scenarios. [[User:Strategex|Strategex]] 20:53, 1 November 2010 (MDT)
 
== Just noticed this ==
 
Fire Emblem Wikia's information is... well good and bad at parts. It's REALLY hard to know exactly how to recruit a person, and what to do, what certain instances do you need to do, etc. Example is their [http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Shinon Shinon] page. "He rejoins the company grudgingly, under the persuasion of Rolf, but only after he is forced to admit that Ike has indeed become stronger than him". I found in a walkthrough that right after that you need to kill him with Ike to recruit him at the end of the chapter.
 
I'm hoping we can actually clearify some of the information compared to our Wikia counterpart. [[User:Yusei|'''''<span style="font-size:16px; font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><span style="color:#5ad2fe;">- </span><span style="color:#2dace1;">Y</span><span style="color:#1995c9;">u</span><span style="color:#1974c9;">s</span><span style="color:#0b43a0;">e</span><span style="color:#021661;">i</span>''''']]&nbsp;</span> ([[User_talk:Yusei|<span style="font-size:11px; font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:#2ea417;">My Talk Page</span>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Yusei|<span style="font-size:11px; font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:#ff9900;">My Contributions</span>]])  11:47, 3 November 2010 (MDT)
 
:I've noticed this too. And at times, their information and standards are quite lacking. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 18:29, 3 November 2010 (MDT)

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FEW Main Site??

Not so sure if you guys would like the idea, but since I did run the place in the past, I was thinking we could have a main page dedicated mostly to just strategy and guides for the games... As in walk throughs and stuff. Information on characters and things like abilities will remain on the wiki. Maybe even eventually having forums and the like? I'm not sure. but that's up to you guys.

Just a thought... -- Eliwood  (My Talk Page) (My Contributions) 17:21, 3 January 2012 (EST)

Would the site be serving the same purpose as Strategy Wiki? Tacopill 17:28, 3 January 2012 (EST).
Also... we don't have a lot of that at all so far. Most of our content is the wiki stuff. I don't think making a blank main page would serve us very well currently. Maybe if we built up strategies/walkthroughs for all the games, then put them on the main page somewhere, I guess... My point is that we're in no position to do that right now. BrandedOne 18:07, 3 January 2012 (EST)
Leave that to StrategyWiki. We do not want to steal their people! Anyways, besides that, the main page is currently how a normal wiki main page is, so changing it would make it weirder and make us isolated from the norm of a wiki. Super (duh...)AlpacaFile:Doggie Mask.png 00:41, 4 January 2012 (EST)
If our interesting is doing strategies, then I am sure they would appreciate all the help that we can give them. It helps them, expand there current info, and it helps you guys spread the word of Fire Emblem. :D. Tacopill 17:26, 5 January 2012 (EST).
"Would the site be serving the same purpose as Strategy Wiki? Tacopill 17:28, 3 January 2012 (EST)." Well I'm not sure. What's the point of having a site at all if we have SW everywhere and stuff? The sake of the reason I have Zelda Sanctuary right now is for the fact I want to have more and better information than the other Zelda sites. What's the point in having a Zelda site if there is ZD? So I was thinking we could do a friendly competition between sites to produce better information than the last... Eventually it helps everyone. I mean you guys are already doing that VS. our wikia counterpart. -- Eliwood  (My Talk Page) (My Contributions) 22:25, 5 January 2012 (EST)
We need to focus on getting content we actually need before we focus on expansion into unnecessary features, such as walkthroughs. We already have ones per chapter on each chapter page, anyways. Super (duh...)AlpacaFile:Doggie Mask.png 23:26, 5 January 2012 (EST)
Amy, it is simply not an idea I don think is feasible, necessary, or even actually beneficial, to us or to readers.
First of all, as many have mentioned, we really are not ready to take on that. We need to focus on filling up the necessary wiki information rather than thinking about new projects already. So it's not really feasible. It's true that we could set it up without too much difficulty, but trying to maintain it would result in three things: neglecting the wiki, which is horrible, equally neglecting both, which would cause us to lose a lot of time for actually posting information on BOTH sites, or neglecting that site, in whose case it would become useless (which I think it would be regardless; continue reading). The problem is that we don't have the userbase to support a website. That's why the forums were so inactive - everybody active enough to post there was active enough to be in the Skype chat anyway. We don't have enough people to help out even with just the wiki. And even if we got enough, I still don't think it would be a good idea. Continue on...
Next, I really don't understand your idea of how friendly competition is really a good or needed thing. While, yes, it might be a bit enjoyable to do it, I just don't understand why there is a need to compete anyway. If it's for more pageviews, it won't work because most viewers are just going to go to Serenes Forest (and its forums) and GameFAQs for Fire Emblem walkthroughs, because they are the reputed sites that have existed and been amazing for years. We don't need to have better information because they already have great information. And we already include strategy tips on our own pages anyway. As others have said, look at StrategyWiki! I do believe it would be a bit discourteous to try doing this, and also very, very futile in general. It's just not necessary to do this, and even if you did try this, I wouldn't work on it because I'd focus on the wiki. And I'm sure many other editors would as well.
Competition with Fire Emblem Wikia is different. We are trying to be a high-quality independent wiki, an information base that is not farmed for dollars by a corporation. And that's a huge part of it - it's a moral motive, to provide information that is not used for commercial purposes, as well as one on which the users make democratic decisions themselves, rather than an administration forcing changes onto users as Wikia has done. You cannot use Fire Emblem Wiki's competition with Fire Emblem Wikia as an example of "friendly competition" when we have a moral reason to compete against a competitor rather than just merely trying to be better.
Lastly - will it help us? As I've said, it won't help us. We won't get any substantial amount of increased pageviews or anything because other strategy websites have existed already. Strategy Wiki exists! And I think it would be just a little bit discourteous to try to take their territory, as a fellow NIWA wiki. And, drawing from the "neglection" stuff I was saying earlier - it'll hurt us if we try to work on it. And considering the server load Tacopill deals with, it'll maybe even slow down the wiki. As for helping readers, I don't think any of us here actually have played Fire Emblem levels enough times to give strategy tips on them. So we don't have anyone qualified, or enough people in the first place, and we're starting from scratch - we won't end up actually helping people for a looong time if we attempt this. And most people aren't going to read us anyway.
So, in the end, I really don't think trying to make a strategy site will help us. Seritinajii 00:52, 6 January 2012 (EST)
I am not in favour of this idea. We are enough busy as it is with the wiki; it would be near impossible to work on something else. ~ Aria der Donau 08:09, 9 January 2012 (EST)

Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem

I just joined, and noticed that there does not seem to be any news concerning Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem. I was wondering if it was because no one noticed or it's not related somehow. The reveal/teaser is here. Parzival (talk) 02:38, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

My guess is a) no-one, or at least no-one with access to edit the main page, noticed, or b) something to do with how nothing has been mentioned of it since it was revealed. If anything is announced at E3, someone will hopefully get around to adding it. --Moydow (Support) 21:48, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I would just like to add on that the crossover now has an official name, "Genei Ibun Roku" and the release date, as far as I know, is December of this year. --gokuplayer
We still don't have an English name for the game, I'm pretty sure that's why the page is still at Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem. L95 (talk) 17:45, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

TearRing/Berwick Saga?

Are you guys able to add pages related to the TearRing Saga or Berwick Saga? I have plenty of pictures about them if that'll help, but the information from said games will have to come from somewhere else. Alex95 (talk) 18:26, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, TearRing Saga and Berwick Saga are not part of our coverage. Try looking for (or creating) a dedicated wiki concerning that franchise. --Shiningpikablu252 (talk) 23:24, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Well, a lot of other FE sites do cover those games, owing to their extreme similarity to FE, and being made by the same director (Shouzou Kaga) as the early FEs. I don't think we should just rule them out like that. --Moydow (Support) 23:59, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
The other FE Wiki has pages covering TRS. L95 (talk) 18:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Mistakes page

Hey there. Just an idea: shouldn't we create a page with a list of mistakes in the series? I'm playing through Awakening at the moment, and I noticed a typo on the first support conversation between Nowi and Gregor: something akin to "an woolly jacket". I'm playing on the European version of the game. I've searched around the web a tad and found other mistakes that would be interesting to compile in a page. Espyo (talk) 08:43, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

I've generally liked those kinds of pages, it would be pretty useful to also list things like translation errors. Off the top of my head, the Aenir issue in Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade and Fire Emblem Awakening's DLC had a quite a few translation issues. (Mostly issues with maintaining localization changes that occurred in the main game but were missed/forgotten? in the dlc. The dlc uses Japanese names of classes and items in a handful of places.) However, I feel like listing things like typos-by this I mean minor ones that don't lead to confusion-are't really worth of creating a page over. L95 (talk) 15:44, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
I get what you mean. It's a bit interesting to have for the sake of completion, and for entertainment of the reader. Of course, a wiki isn't a fun house, but if a page can entertain the readers and fall within the scope and policy of a wiki, it sounds like a good candidate on my book. A list of typos would be objective, after all. Your call, anyway. I'll keep my eyes peeled and report any other typo I find just in case a page is ever decided to be created. Espyo (talk) 07:56, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Welp, found another one. At the end of chapter 12, Basilio says "The town is in a shambles, as is my army." That should be either "in shambles" or "in a shamble", in my opinion. This won't mean anything for the creation of the page, sure, but I did say I'd keep an eye out for further typos! Espyo (talk) 16:45, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Another: the description for Relief ends with a comma instead of a period. Espyo (talk) 08:03, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Found another; this time for Fates. Instead of bloating the talk page for the main page every time I find something, I'll just slap it on my user page and warn readers from the future to check out the list there. Espyo (talk) 15:44, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Warriors

That fact that information about Warriors and the new characters needs to be added to the news section, please help as soon as possible. ~Kiril

l love fire emblem