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Revision as of 01:55, 8 July 2019

Name changes

Main article: Name chart/Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones

NTSC-J to NTSC-U changes

Gameplay changes

  • The Rapier and Reginleif’s (previously non-existent) effective bonus towards Mage Knights was fixed.
  • Many weapons were altered, such as the lowering of Siegmunde’s Might (19 to 17), and the raising of the Brave Axe’s worth (2250 to 7500).
  • The Secret Shops in the main story had their inventories reworked with some stat boosting items not available anymore.
  • Enemies on Easy Mode and Hard Mode are effectively 2 levels weaker.
  • Fomortiis is initially equipped with Demon Light instead of Ravager in the Final Chapter.
  • The Gorgon’s movement type was changed from Flier to Mage.
  • Pierce Glitch :
Main article: Glitch § Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
  • Several characters had their base stats modified as follows :
style="Template:Roundtl; border:none" width="100%" colspan="12"|Base stats
style="Template:Roundtl; border:none; background-color:#222222"|Character Lv HP S/M Skl Spd Lck Def Res Mov Con style="Template:Roundtr; border:none; background-color:#222222"|Weapon Rank
Franz 1 21-1 8-1 5 8-1 2 6 1 7 9 Swords E, Lances D
Vanessa 1 17 5 7 12-1 4 6 5 7 5 Lances D
Neimi 1 18-1 4 5 6 4 3 2 5 5 Bows D
Colm 2 18 4 4 12-2 8 3 1 6 6 Swords E
Artur 2 19 7-1 6 9-1 2 2 6 5 6 Light magic E
Lute 1 17 6 6 7 8 3 6-1 5 3 Anima magic C
Tana 4 20 8-1 8+1 12+1 8 7-1 7 7 5 Lances D
Innes 1 28+3 14 13 15 14 10 9 6 9 Bows A
Gerik 10 32 14 13 13 8 10 4 5 11+2 Swords C
Saleh 1 30 16 18 14 11 9-1 13 6 8 Anima magic A, Light magic B, Staves C
Cormag 9 29+1 13+1 8+1 10 3+1 12 1+1 7 11 Lances C
11 37-5 18-3 12-2 13-2 6-1 15-2 3-1
Rennac 1 26+2 8+2 11+5 15+2 5 8+1 3+8 6 7 Swords B
Duessel 8 41 17 12 12 8 17 9 6 15 Swords B+1, Lances A, Axes A
Syrene 1 27 10+2 13 15 12 8+2 10+2 8 7 Swords C, Lances A
Caellach 12 42+5 16+3 15-1 13 14 13+2 13 6 13 Swords A, Axes A
Orson 13 47+1 18 14+1 12+2 6 14 9+2 8 12 Swords A, Lances A
Riev 16 44+5 14 21 19 9 17-1 18 6 7 Light magic A+1, Staves A
Selena 11 33+5 13 13 16 10 9+2 17 7 6 Anima magic A, Staves B
Glen 12 41+5 20 17 13 7 18 5 8 12 Swords A, Lances A
Valter 13 40+5 19 17 15+2 3 13 10+2 8 11 Lances A+1

Note: The tables lists each character’s base stats in the Japanese version +/- the adjustment made in the English version. Amelia’s starting Level in Eirika’s Chapter 13 was reduced from 5 to 4 and Cormag’s Level 11 stats are rounded to the nearest whole number.

  • Several characters had their growth rates modified as follows :
style="Template:Roundtl; border:none" width="100%" colspan="8"|Growth rates
style="Template:Roundtl; border:none; background-color:#222222"|Character HP S/M Skl Spd Lck Def style="Template:Roundtr; border:none; background-color:#222222"|Res
Seth 85+5 50 45 45 25 40 30
Gilliam 90 40+5 30+5 30 30 55 20
Moulder 80-15 40 50 45-5 20 25 25
Ross 70 50 35 25+5 40 25 20
Innes 60+15 40 40 45 45 20 25
Artur 55 60-10 50 40 25 15 60-5
Lute 45 70-5 30 45 45 15 45-5
Forde 80+5 40 50 45 35 20 25
Kyle 85+5 50 40 40 20 25 20
Amelia 70-10 40-5 40 40 50 30 15
Marisa 75 25+5 50+5 55+5 50 15 20+5
Ewan 50 55-10 40 35 50 15 40
L'Arachel 45 60-10 45 50-5 65 15 50
Rennac 60+5 25 45 60 25 25 25+5
Joshua 80 30+5 55 55 30 20 20
Syrene 70 35+5 50 60 30 20 50
Hayden 70 40 40+5 45 40 25 25
Selena 85 40 55 40 25 20 25+5
Glen 85 40+5 50 45 20 25+10 40
Lyon 85 50 10+45 10+45 30 10+35 15+40

Note: The table lists the character’s growth rates in the Japanese version +/- the adjustment made in the English version.

  • A few classes had their maximum stats adjusted.
style="Template:Roundtl; border:none" width="100%" colspan="7"|Maximum stats adjustements
style="Template:Roundtl; border:none; background-color:#222222"|Class S/M Skl Spd Def Res style="Template:Roundtr; border:none; background-color:#222222"|Con
Great Knight (Female) 26 25+1 23+2 28 26 25
Recruit (3) 28-5 30 29 27-5 27-1 20
Journeyman (3) 30-4 28+1 26+2 30-7 24-1 20
Pupil (3) 29 29-1 26+1 24-3 30-4 20
Demon King 40+10 40+10 40+10 40+10 40+10 40+10

Note: The table lists the class’s maximum stats in the Japanese version +/- the adjustment made in the English version.

Graphics

  • The flickering of the Silencer skill was changed from red to purple.

Chapter and boss changes

File:Ss fe8 riev japanese stats ch 20.png
Screenshot of Riev's Chapter 20 appearance in the Japanese release of The Sacred Stones.
  • Pablo and Riev in their second encounters were changed to keep the stats they had during their first encounter instead of receiving a boost like in the Japanese release.
  • Several bosses had their stats and levels increased, and some enemy levels were increased.
Joshua attacking Natasha in the japanese version.
  • In the Japanese version of The Sacred Stones Joshua will attack and kill Natasha while he is an enemy during chapter 5 if she is in range. This was changed in the NTSC-U and the PAL releases where he does not attack her even if she is in range.

Dialogue changes

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  • In the Japanese version, Joshua tells Artur that Artur has won 15 times and lost 16 times out of 21 matches. Not only do the sum of winning and losing numbers not match to the number of matches, but Joshua even tells Artur that they are roughly even. The English version fixes this by having Joshua tell Artur that Artur has won 11 out of 21 matches.
  • In the Japanese version, the support set for Garcia and Dozla involved them drinking alcohol and getting drunk. This was changed in the localization where they instead end up trying out many different weapons and end up hurting themselves in amusing ways.[1]
  • There is a typo in Neimi and Gilliam's A Support. Neimi talks about Cormag when instead she should be referring to Colm. This error was caused due to Cormag being written similar to "Coma", which is Colm's Japanese name.
  • In Kyle and Syrene’s C Support, there is a typo where Kyle refers to Syrene as Selena. Syrene and Selena's names are pretty similar, which explains the names getting mixed-up.
  • In the Japanese version, there is a typo in Syrene and Tana's B support conversation where Syrene refers to Tana as Syrene. This was corrected in the NTSC-U and PAL versions of the game.

Items

Since no distribution events were ever run for NTSC-U or PAL releases, the following items became completely inaccessible in gameplay. All of them can still be accessed through cheat devices and still function properly.

style="Template:Roundtl; border:none" width="100%" colspan="2"|Items unavailable in NTSC-U and PAL
style="Template:Roundtl; border:none; background-color:#222222; color:#fff"| Item style="Template:Roundtr; border:none; background-color:#222222; color:#fff"|Type
Is gba juna fruit.png Juna Fruit Item
Is gba shadowkiller.png Shadowkiller Sword
Is gba fiendcleaver.png Fiendcleaver Axe
Is gba bright lance.png Bright Lance Lance
Is gba beacon bow.png Beacon Bow Bow

NTSC-U to PAL changes

Unless otherwise stated, all changes made between the NTSC-J and NTSC-U releases are retained in the PAL version, excluding names.

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style="Template:Roundtl; border:none; background-color:#222222;" | NTSC-J style="Template:Roundtr; border:none; background-color:#222222" | NTSC-U/PAL
File:Ss fe08 silencer ntsc-j.png Ss fe08 joshua activating silencer.png
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File:Ss fe8 retreat prompt us.png File:Ss fe8 retreat prompt eu.png
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Dialogue changes

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  • In Gilliam and Garcia’s C Support, Garcia calls Gilliam “Garcia” during the part where Garcia challenges Gilliam to arm-wrestle him. This same typo appeared in the Japanese version, the NTSC localization did not fix this, though the PAL version corrected this.


References

  1. ↑ https://kantopia.wordpress.com/2017/08/31/fe8-sacred-stones-localization-garcia-dozla-drinking-jpn-vs-eng-major-change/#more-6815
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Playable characters Amelia • Artur • Colm • Cormag • Dozla • Duessel • Eirika • Ephraim • Ewan • Forde • Franz • Garcia • Gerik • Gilliam • Innes • Joshua • Knoll • Kyle • L'Arachel • Lute • Marisa • Moulder • Myrrh • Natasha • Neimi • Rennac • Ross • Saleh • Seth • Syrene • Tana • Tethys • Vanessa
Creature Campaign characters Caellach • Fado • Glen • Hayden • Ismaire • Lyon • Orson • Riev • Selena • Valter
Non-playable characters Dara • Klimt • Mansel
Bosses Aias • Bandit • Bazba • Beran • Binks • Bone • Breguet • Caellach • Carlyle • Fomortiis • Gheb • Lyon • Morva • Murray • Novala • O'Neill • Orson • Pablo • Riev • Saar • Selena • Tirado • Valter • Vigarde • Zonta
Background characters Grado • Latona • MacGregor • Monica • Nada Kuya
Sacred Twins and personal weapons Audhulma • Excalibur • Garm • Gleipnir • Ivaldi • Latona • Nidhogg • Rapier • Reginleif • Sieglinde • Siegmund • Vidofnir
Chapters Pre-split P: The Fall of Renais • 1: Escape! • 2: The Protected • 3: The Bandits of Borgo • 4: Ancient Horrors • 5: The Empire's Reach • 5x: Unbroken Heart • 6: Victims of War • 7: Waterside Renvall • 8: It's a Trap! • A New Journey
Eirika's Route 9: Distant Blade • 10: Revolt at Carcino • 11: Creeping Darkness • 12: Village of Silence • 13: Hamill Canyon • 14: Queen of White Dunes
Ephraim's Route 9: Fort Rigwald • 10: Turning Traitor • 11: Phantom Ship • 12: Landing at Taizel • 13: Fluorspar's Oath • 14: Father and Son
Post-split 15: Scorched Sand • 16: Ruled by Madness • 17: River of Regrets • 18: Two Faces of Evil • 19: Last Hope • 20: Darkling Woods • F: Sacred Stone (part 1 • part 2)
Locations Magvel • Carcino (Caer Pelyn) • Darkling Woods • Frelia (Tower of Valni) • Grado (Renvall) • Jehanna (Jehanna Hall • Lagdou Ruins) • Rausten (Melkaen Coast) • Renais (Za'ha Woods)
Groups, objects and concepts Five heroes • Gerik's Mercenaries • Imperial Three • Legend of the Sacred Stones • Monsters • Sacred Stones • Sacred Twins • War of the Stones
Lists Chapters • Characters • Classes (Class change) • Hidden treasure • Items • Scripts • Skills • Supports • Weapons
Related topics Creature Campaign • The Sacred Stones Comic • Novelization • List of version differences (Name chart) • Pre-release information (Pre-release build • Unused content) • Sound Room • Timeline • World map
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